20.04.2008
VanceS contributed 264 messages, 9 emotes, 6 private messages during 137 minutes.

2008.04.20 05:05:21 Login

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JeffC: http://snurl.com/eslkinder

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JeffC: again... hold the Ctrl key down when clicking, or accept popups from this site.

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DennisOl: Hi, Jeff.

VanceS: Hi what's going on here today?

CathyT: Thanks Jeff! Got it

JeffC: and here's Vance

DennisOl: Hi, Carlos.

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AntonnettP: got it

ClaireB: hi guys

DennisOl: Hi, Claire.

JeffC: well... I just started the ball rolling with http://snurl.com/eslkinder

DennisOl: Hi, everyone.

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JeffC: there are a number of preschool and kinder teachers here Vance.

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DennisOl: Hi, Vance.

JeffC gives Vance the ball.

ClaireB: how nice that they have joined us!

VanceS sidesteps, avoids a tackle, hands off to dennis

VanceS: yes, I'll say

JeffC: lol

VanceS: are all these people here to join us today?

CathyT: Yes

JeffC: Hi everyone... you can see how things are... uh... structured with Webheads in Action!

CristinaD: I am

VanceS: wow

EricaNM nods

JeffC: Yes... everyone here is for Webheads, Vance.

VanceS: welcome

AmandaGT: hello

CarlosF: I am too.

ClaireB: can you all introduce yourselves and say where you are?

EricaNM: thanks

CathyT . o O ( I can see that! )

VanceS: this is very unusual

ClaireB: but nice

VanceS: normally it's pretty quiet here while the sun comes up over the western hemisphere

ClaireB: unusual in a good way

JeffC: everyone got up early for you!

ClaireB: we are impressed and flattered

VanceS: we were planning to try out Oovoo today

JeffC: btw everyone... I strongly recommend *detaching* your chat window... click the Actions menu in the upper right of this frame... then Detach.

VanceS: but we can do that in about an hour

CarlosF: Not quite ...In Portugal it's lunch time!

JeffC: you may then maximize your chat window.

JeffC: also... Actions-- larger text (might help).

VanceS: I'm in the UAE, just finished my sandwich

VanceS: where is everyone else from?

JustinH: 4th grade Mahanay elementary, 4th grade math and science. Houston Tx

DennisOl: I'm in Phoenix, AZ, U.S. It's a little after 5:00 AM here.

AmandaGT: Hello. I am from Houston, Texas

EricaNM: I am a student teeacher in Missouri City, Texas. I teach a 2nd grade.

NatalieA: Hi I am from Katy, Tx

EricaNM: *teacher

KaylaP: I am from Houston

CathyT: I'm a student teacher in Houston, TX

ClaireB: I'm in Pittsburgh - work at the U. of Pittsburgh

CristinaD: student teacher, Houston, TX, EC-4 Bilingual

ClaireB: Carlos, where is Benavente?

AntonnettP: I am a student teacher at the Univeristy of Houston and I hope to teach second to fourth

CarlosF: Oh, sorry... I'm a secondary school teacher in Benavente, Portugal I come from Baw08

ClaireB: Where is Benavente? South? North?

VanceS: amazing, I grew up in Houston, used to fly from Hull Field near Mo. City

VanceS: my parents lived in Katy

NatalieA: nice

EricaNM: cool

KaylaP: I student teach in Katy! Bear Creek Elementary

VanceS: my neck a the woods

CarlosF: It's 40 Km from Lisbon into the Ribatejo area. Do you know Portugal that well, Claire?

AmandaGT: Hi Kayla!

ClaireB: oh yes. I studied in Coimbra for a year

DennisOl: Here's the Wikipedia link for Benevente:

DennisOl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benavente,_Portugal

VanceS: I've been to Sintra and I passed through Coimbra once

VanceS: university town

ClaireB: yes indeed, and older than Oxford

VanceS: so how did people happen on webheads?

VanceS: apart from BAW08

CarlosF: Dennis, you allways manage to surprise me. From Benavente to Coimbra is 200 Km. Benavente is South, Claire

VanceS: and welcome as a result of that

DennisOl: Carlos: Obrigado! You're too kind!

VanceS: good to see Dennis here. We missed you last week

VanceS: never had a chance to thank you for the tulips

VanceS: or was it Roses this time

VanceS: I think it was roses

VanceS: Dennis sends flowers to webheads face to face meetings

JeffC: what's the url for what you wanted to cover today, Vance?

ClaireB: because he is so sweet and considerate!

VanceS: he is

VanceS: we were messing with DimDim last week

DennisOl: Here's a map of Portugal. You can see Coimbra just above the red "Portugal."

VanceS: and we agreed this week to play with Oovoo

DennisOl: http://snipurl.com/2520o [www_worldatlas_com]

VanceS: which is oovoo.com

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DennisOl: You're welcome re the roses, Vance.

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VanceS: it's a web cam skype-like thingy

DennisOl: I wish I could've been there with you all in person.

EleonorL: Hello

VanceS: but that's what we decided to do last week

DennisOl: Hi, Eleonor.

VanceS: based on the wishes of the people there at the time

ClaireB: hi eleonor

DennisOl: Claire: How well does Oovoo work with non-Intel Macs?

VanceS: we are quite flexible

EleonorL: Hello!

VanceS: now that is a good question (the mac one)

ClaireB: i don't know, dennis

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ThomasLev: hello!

ClaireB: a lot of my friends both on pcs and macs have had problems with oovoo though

ClaireB: hi tom

DennisOl: It's supposed to work with Macs, but they specify G5 Macs. My Mac is an older G4.

DennisOl: Tom!

VanceS: at any rate, that's all that was on our agenda for this week

VanceS: and we can do whatever people want to do

ClaireB: i didn't know we had an agenda

VanceS hands the ball off to Thomas

ThomasLev: I have no agenda

VanceS: Go Tom Go

VanceS: make one up

JeffC: a note for those new to Webheads... there's *never* an agenda!

VanceS: actually, yes, Jeff has just read out the first rule

VanceS: and the second rule is, there are no rules

JeffC: just think of this session as random words of wisdom from some great thinkers in the virtual realm of ESL.

ClaireB: but speaking just for me, i always learn at least one new thing

EricaNM laughs

DennisOl: The agendas constantly transform.

JeffC: so... if you have any questions, need help regarding ESL/TEFL... just chime in!

DennisOl: Me, too, Claire.

EleonorL: What is TEFL?

VanceS: If I only learn one new thing, I probably haven't been paying attention

ClaireB: teaching english as a foreign language

ClaireB: i said at least, vance

VanceS: most of us are EFL oR ESL teachers, or have been

EleonorL: So it's basically the same as ESL...gotcha

VanceS bumps claire pointedly with elbow

ClaireB: usually efl refers to teaching in a situation where english is not the common language

EleonorL: I'm not an ESL certified

CarlosF: And for those, in minority, who teaches TFSL? Can we still be here?

JeffC: like detroit

ClaireB bumps vance right back

VanceS: and you guys are ... I think I heard pre-school, or kindergarten?

CathyT: Some of us are I think.

JeffC: many are pre-school and kinder teachers (from what I saw on profiles), yes...

ThomasLev: did we ever ask you what you actually taught?

JeffC: that's why i popped up the http://snurl.com/eslkinder link.

VanceS: I've been amazed listening to worldbridges how wired some kindergartens are getting to be

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JeffC: that's because they've been drinking a lotta coffee, vance.

VanceS: or I should say some kindergarteners and their teachers

KaylaP: I teach Kindergarten

JeffC: hold the Ctrl key down when clicking links... or accept popups from this site.

ClaireB: vance, doesn't bobbi teach kindergarten?

JeffC: otherwise your popup blocker will log you out.

CathyT: I'm working with 2nd grade and they are pretty wired too!

JustinH: 4th grade

VanceS: I listen to podcasts from http://edtechtalk.com and there are occasionally kindergarteners on

DennisOl: For those interested in TESL vs TEFL, see this:

DennisOl: http://snipurl.com/2520w [www_associatedcontent_com]

AmandaGT: so are 3rd graders! :)

JeffC: and... Actions menu-- detach chat and Actions menu-- larger text

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EleonorL: I am a student teacher is currently teaching 4th grade, but my heart is with the younger students

VanceS: are any of you Worldbridges fans?

EleonorL: No...hmmm..

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EricaNM: I never heard of it

DennisOl: Welcome back, Carlos!

VanceS: or familiar with it?

CathyT: Not quite sure what that is... I'll have to say no for now

EleonorL: Not really...

CristinaD: no

VanceS: how about the K-12 Online conference, had its second annual recently?

CarlosF: Went to take care of the pop-up thing...

DennisOl: WorldBridges:

DennisOl: http://worldbridges.net/

EleonorL: Hey Cristina!

KaylaP: Have not heard of it

CristinaD: Hi Ellie!!

VanceS: Jeff Lebow in particular started it

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ThomasLev: really?

DennisOl: K-12 Online Conference 2007:

VanceS: and it has great podcasts from live shows ranging in level all across K-12 and Univ.

DennisOl: http://k12onlineconference.org/

VanceS: and that URL that Dennis put up is an excellent archived resource of two conferences worth of presentations

ThomasLev: I should tell my son's kindergarten teacher about this

AmandaGT: That is neat!

VanceS: which reach again all spectra

ThomasLev: he's in a bilingual kindergarten

EricaNM: pretty cool

KaylaP: I have never been to the site but it looks neat! I was looking for a resource for Earth Day

DennisOl: What languages, Tom?

ThomasLev: but they're not wired as far as I know

ClaireB: which 2 languages, tom?

ThomasLev: Spanish & English

VanceS: I'm at tertiary myself, but last year I presented in K-12

DennisOl: Wonderful!

ThomasLev: one in the morning, the other in the afternoon

VanceS: Now Worldbridges is holding a webcastathon for Earthday April 22

EleonorL: I'm on there right now and it's very intersting...

VanceS: and someone twittered us to look at one of his kids' sites for earthday

VanceS: did you get that one claire?

ClaireB: i don't remember

VanceS: I don't have access to Twitter at my office unfortunately

ClaireB: sometimes the twits are overwhelming and i can't follow them all

ClaireB: was it recent?

VanceS: unless it would be at our crowdstatus

VanceS: yes, last couple of days

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ClaireB: do you remember who posted it?

VanceS: Twits to me are like ticker tape

VanceS: trying to recall ...

ClaireB: yeah, i know what you mean

ThomasLev: you can use them for confetti

VanceS: yes, virtual confetti

ClaireB: i use twittermail to make sure that i see all the twits that are directed specifically to me

ClaireB: twitteretti

CarlosF: Kayla, I saw a voicethread on Earth day www. voicethread.com

EleonorL: Can anyone explain twittermail??

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CathyT: Twitter mail?

JeffC: upper class twits?

VanceS: yes, I just posted a video to that voice thread this morning

EricaNM: idk

VanceS: if you find it you can meet my cat

EleonorL: LOL...sorry...it's early

ClaireB: yes, it's a website where you sign up. then every time someone sends you a direct twit, it will come to you later also as email

RitaZ hi, everybody

ClaireB hugs rita

ClaireB: RITA

CarlosF: Oh, is it yours then...

VanceS: hi Rita

RitaZ hugs Clari and all friends

ThomasLev: HI Rita

DennisOl: Rita! Abrazos!

RitaZ: abrazos, Dennis! :-)

DennisOl -)

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JeffC heads back to bed for a bit... insomnia is what brought me here (as usual)... i'll stay logged in... if anyone has questions regarding Tapped In... send me a private chat (double click my name in the Here tab to the left to open a private chat box)... and I'll reply later.

ThomasLev: Hope your toothache is better, Jeff

DennisOl: Vance: Re Twitter and Earth Day, was the post by João Alves, by José Rodriguez (coordinatortwo) or someone else? Do you remember?

ClaireB: be well, jeff

VanceS: might be, it said look at what one of my kids did for Earthday

DennisOl: Yes, Jeff: take care!

VanceS: when you click on it you get a really nice site

VanceS: now it's getting me thinking

VanceS: it was a german site

VanceS: maybe it was one of Kip Yellowjacket's

ClaireB: i will look for it

EleonorL: Any good websites for rainforests?

ClaireB: folks, I have a very important announcement.

RitaZ . o O ( Vance's "summons" has had a good response today ;-) )

ClaireB: Vance became a grandparent this week.

DennisOl: OK, here's that URL (from João):

DennisOl: http://snipurl.com/2521e [www_docstoc_com]

ClaireB: Please join me in congratulating him!!!

ThomasLev: oh cool- congratulations Vance!

RitaZ: Congrats, Vance! ;-)

VanceS hands out chocolate cigars

NatalieA: Congratulations Vance

EleonorL: Congrats Vance

EricaNM: congrats

ClaireB: what is her name, vance?

DennisOl: Wow, Vance! Congratulations!

CathyT: Congrats Vance!

VanceS be careful with the gold foil wrappers please

CarlosF: Yes, Parabéns = Congrat, Steve

KaylaP: Congratulations, that is very exciting!

AmandaGT: Congratulations!

ClaireB: is glenn handing out real cigars?

CristinaD: Congratulations!!

ThomasLev: this calls for confetti

VanceS: name is not settled on yet but we think maybe Guinevere

ClaireB: That's a nice name

VanceS . o O ( chocolate cigars claire, want one? )

ThomasLev: nice

DennisOl: Yes, and a strong one.

EricaNM: cute!!!

DennisOl: (a strong name)

ClaireB wants a chocolate cigar

RitaZ: love chocolate, Vance!

CathyT: Does anyone know of any good math activity sites for pattern building?

ClaireB: rita certainly wants one

VanceS: would you like a chocolate outer layer with white chocalate filling?

RitaZ: yeah, Clari :-)

ClaireB: yes

RitaZ: yes!!

EleonorL good question Cathy

RitaZ: with almonds, still better

ClaireB: no Cathy, I don't, but I bet that dennis can find one

VanceS gets some more boxes and puts them in the middle of the room

ClaireB: how much did the baby weigh?

CarlosF: Do the guys also get chocolate, Vance?

VanceS: it was small

ThomasLev: we had one a couple of years ago but it's long gone

DennisOl: Here are results of a Google search on pattern building:

DennisOl: http://snipurl.com/2521j [www_google_com]

CathyT: That would be great... I've been struggling to find some great sites that I could use in the classroom with my students, I've searched high and low and only found 1

EricaNM: man that was fast

CathyT: Thanks Dennis

DennisOl: There seem to be a lot of good sites in the Google list.

DennisOl: My pleasure.

EleonorL: Dennis I can't get into the site

DennisOl: And on that note, I'll be back in a few minutes.

RitaZ: Dennis is always fast at coming up with whatever we may need :-)

EricaNM: what about one for measurements (metric)

ClaireB: eleonor, dennis went to google and typed "Math pattern building"

ClaireB: the page that he posted was the results page

EleonorL: Gotch...thanks claire

DennisOl: Google search on metrics:

DennisOl: http://snipurl.com/2521k [www_google_com]

EricaNM: thank you!

EleonorL: This is a good one...any good websites on elapse time...

DennisOl: Both of the Google URLs are lists of sites. Click on any of those in the list individually.

DennisOl: Now I'm going to get more coffee.

CristinaD: okay, so do you have any tips for a first year teacher teaching ESL?

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VanceS: sorry just got a phone call

VanceS: off now

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ThomasLev: http://www.mathforum.org/

CathyT: Thank you Thomas

VanceS: there is this theory of connectivism based on distributed learning networks

CarlosF: What you can use, Cristina, depens on what you know of these tools. There are lots of ideas in Bawers

VanceS: that says that YOUR knowledge is equal to the sum of that in the netowrk

VanceS: right here we have a small network, with some knowledge

EleonorL: Cristina are you bilinguel?

CristinaD: I think there is more more knowledge than just some

CristinaD: yes I am

CristinaD: Spanish English

VanceS: but hooking up with the wider networks is where you get answers to all these questions

EleonorL: I didn't know that! So your state tests are harder!

RitaZ: sorry, guys, brb, taking 5 min for breakfast (9.40 am this end)

CathyT: and longer

EleonorL: Wow...

CristinaD: tests are longer, but only the generalist

CristinaD: plus we take the TOPT

ThomasLev: http://paralines.blogspot.com/

EleonorL: Where do you want to teach Cristina?

CathyT: How much longer again?

CristinaD: like by half

ThomasLev: here's a guy who puts lots of his math thinking on the web

ThomasLev: he's the guy I was thinking of

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ThomasLev: I doubt that's what you want

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ThomasLev: but I'd ask him

AmandaGT: neat website!

EleonorL: FUZ

CathyT: Thanks Thomas... this seems interesting.

KaylaP: FUZ, I like it! I think students will enjoy this method.

JustinH: This is great for my 4th grade. Love this sight.

AmandaGT: Helps them look things differently... so many need help like this

AntonnettP: I like this site as well, thanks

EleonorL: Very good strategy

NatalieA: i agree Eleonor

ThomasLev: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGCJ46vyR9o

VanceS: FUZ

ThomasLev: here's a movie for you univ. teachers

EricaNM: wonderful!

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ThomasLev: it's inspired me to make one

VanceS: cool

ClaireB: yes, seen it; it's good

VanceS: this kind of movie is getting to be a meme

ThomasLev: there are a lot of them?

ThomasLev: it was clear to me it had been around the horn

CristinaD: oh, I've seen this before

DennisOl: meme:

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DennisOl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme

ClaireB: yes it is

DennisOl: The Daily Meme:

DennisOl: http://thedailymeme.com/what-is-a-meme/

VanceS: starting with Wesch's original

ThomasLev: bloggers were using "meme" to mean questions that all their fellow bloggers would take the time to answer

VanceS: what was it . the machine us using US

VanceS: This one appears to be by him

VanceS: but there is shift happens

RitaZ is back

ClaireB: welcome back, rita!

RitaZ: thanks, Clari ;-)

KaylaP: THAT WAS VERY NEAT, I SAW SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR ELEMENTART TEACHERS

CathyT: That was a very interesting video!

EleonorL: Wow...Dennis...that was very interesting

EricaNM: wow interesting video

AmandaGT: I agree

EleonorL: It's so true though!!!

ThomasLev: My internationals are going to make one

KaylaP: Sorry, I didnot realize the caps were on, is this from the conference, that discusses immigrates vs. natives

ThomasLev: if I'm lucky

ClaireB: that is great, tom - be sure and post the url on twitter or somewhere

CathyT: It is... a majority of the people that bring their laptops to class are NOT doing any classwork on it... I know I've done it before...

AmandaGT: Kayla.. we saw one during our staff development (similar)

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EleonorL: I would agree Cathy

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VanceS: there seem to be a lot of movies being made like this, but of course, just because they find other things to be time efficient with their laptops does not mean they're not engaged

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VanceS: did you catch gavin dudeney's comment in the Exeter postings

ThomasLev: no- I'd be interested in that, and in any movies students make about themselves...

VanceS: he's made many comments, but this was on a suggestion I made that it was not enough to have a f2f conf and a parallel online forum based one

VanceS: I said what's really needed is to have a f2f conf that's interacting with an online audience

VanceS: the comments from that were really interesting

EleonorL will be right back

RitaZ: interesting, Vance, yes

VanceS: ranging from 'if I'd paid for f2f I wouldn't want the presenter paying attn to an online audience durng his presentation ...

VanceS: (not Gavin's) btw

RitaZ: hmm

VanceS: one presenter said he felt resentful if people were using laptops during his presentation

VanceS: like even to twitter or blog it

ClaireB: that is interesting.

RitaZ: Ive seen people twitter at talks in TESOL, didnt like that

VanceS: there's a lot of misunderstanding here

ClaireB: a lot of my students now use laptops during class

ClaireB: sometimes if i say i don't know something, they go online and look it up

ericanm: thank god our students are too young for that

CathyT: yes I agree... they already have enough distractions

VanceS: uh, some webheads were twittering me while I was on the panel waiting to present and otehr speakers were talking

VanceS: but so?

CristinaD: not everybody is doing something they are not supposed on their computers

VanceS: this is GOOD I think

VanceS: exactly

RitaZ: ??

DennisOl: I think so, too.

AmandaGT: I agree Cristina..

CathyT: that is true Cristina

ClaireB: i don't mind if they are on the internet during class --- just not during exams

VanceS: this is what you WANT

DennisOl: Good if you take a constructivist view of learning.

VanceS: interaction with the outside audience, true reflection

ClaireB: if they can inform me, i figure so much the better

DennisOl: Hear, hear!

RitaZ: exactly

AmandaGT: In many college classes I have seen people on wesites that were not relevant to the class or what was being discussed

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CristinaD: yes I have seen plenty of that

DennisOl: That's a different story, Amanda.

AmandaGT: but then again many use it to take notes.. ect.

EleonorL: I could agree amanda

VanceS: I think it's not for us to judge what people are doing, like taking notes for example, or browsing

CristinaD: I guess it just depends on the student

DennisOl: Right.

VanceS: we need to inculcate how best to browse during class activities

ericanm: true

VanceS: or presentations or whatever

ClaireB: well at the college level, they have plenty of opportunities to be distracted, but they could do that whether they used laptops or not

CathyT: I agree with Amanda. but it definitely depends on the student Cristina

AmandaGT: true

DennisOl: Definitely, Claire.

NatalieA: i agree

VanceS: it's up to the learner, if they want to waste time, their problem

VanceS: at least at the college level

DennisOl: Right, Vance.

ericanm: indeed!

CristinaD: well, many students can multi-task, not many, but some can

ericanm nods

CathyT: not quite so much at the Elementary level though...

VanceS: but there are those who are twitting or blogging or browsing to sites maybe as a result of a search on something you said

CristinaD: no not the younger ones

ClaireB: because of my job, i have to attend a lot of boring meetings, and frankly what i like best about my iphone is that i can surf the web during meetings without appearing rude

ClaireB: (at least not **very** rude)

ericanm: lol

AmandaGT smiles

VanceS: I was in Leslie Opp Beckman's presentation I recall googling things she was mentioning at TESOL arabia

VanceS: sometimes I would ask, you mean THIS instrument? etc

VanceS: at TA we had wireless throughout

ClaireB: that is cool

VanceS: I've changed my approach to presentations I realize now

KaylaP: I agree that would be very hepful Vance

VanceS: before I would visit a site days in advance and get IT on the connectivity I needed

ThomasLev: I wonder about kids who can't write a paper without chatting and watching YouTubes simultaneously

ThomasLev: or who can't read a book for the same reason

DennisOl: Hear, hear, Tom!

VanceS: nowadays I show up, take whatever connectivity is there, and if I want to b/cast it I'll twitter or email the network

EleonorL: We live in a whole different decade now..

DennisOl: For sure, Eleonor.

ClaireB: vance, what if there is no connectivity at all?

VanceS: PowerPoint

ClaireB: there you go

VanceS: record using Audacity

VanceS: podcast later

ThomasLev: hmm

VanceS: i had an interesting experience in Bangkok

VanceS: with Kim Cofino, do you know her?

ThomasLev: yes

ClaireB: no

RitaZ: nope

EleonorL: no

VanceS: interesting lady

KaylaP: no

ericanm: no

AmandaGT: no

VanceS: she has a great blog and twitters

NatalieA: no

VanceS: worth following

VanceS: anyway we were set to b/cast from her school

VanceS: for the unconference there last January

VanceS: Future of Learning in a Networked World

VanceS: Michael Coghlin was there

EleonorL: coo

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EleonorL: l

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VanceS: we were told we could have any kind of connectivity we needed

VanceS: so we just showed up

VanceS: to find we were firewalled out of everything

ClaireB: oops

DennisOl: info on Kim Cofino:

DennisOl: http://snipurl.com/25244 [123elearning_blogspot_com]

VanceS: I had arranged with Doug SYmington to webcast for me

RitaZ thanks speedt Dennis

VanceS: so I'm blocked from just about everything

RitaZ: speedy

DennisOl smiles

AmandaGT: thanks for the website

VanceS: meanwhile Kim and her crew are getting a ustream going

ericanm: thanks

DennisOl: My pleasure, Amanda.

AmandaGT smiles

VanceS: they have the IP addresses so they can get through

VanceS: I'm concerned that Doug has no info from me, he's waiting to webcast from my input, my b/cast

CarlosF: Bye, everyone.. I do have to go .. I'll be back next sunday! May you all have a pleasant week and that Vance can change a dipper....

VanceS: I notice that Doug has joined the Ustream

VanceS: that Kim set up

VanceS: because it's such an intereconnected network

DennisOl: FLNW:

DennisOl: http://learningnetworkedworld.blogspot.com/

VanceS: so it worked fine

ClaireB: bye, carlos

VanceS: cya Carlos

ClaireB: very cool, vance

DennisOl: Take care, Carlos! Até mais ver!

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ThomasLev: wow

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VanceS: yeah, and there\s a recording on my blog somewhere

RitaZ: cool indeed, vance

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ericanm: wow

ClaireB: people seem to be fading in and out a lot today

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DennisOl: http://advanceducation.blogspot.com/

RitaZ . o O ( restless audience today :-) )

VanceS: thanks dennis, more to the point http://advanceducation.blogspot.com/2008/01/future-of-learning-in-networked-world.html

DennisOl: Denos!

DennisOl: Thanks, Vance.

DennisOl: Or is it another DennisN?

ThomasLev: I think of it as "door-slamming" for some reason, Claire

VanceS: Just profile checked

VanceS: it's Denos

DennisOl: Great!

VanceS: he Denos, missed you in Exeter

DennisN: Sorry, folks Got the time wrong as usual. I thought we were meeting one hour earlier. It is just after 15:00 here. If t is midday GMT I'm three hours ahead of you.

ClaireB: i gotta go guys; see you next week

VanceS: noon GMT, which is 1 pm. in London this spring

DennisN: Hi, Vance. Were you in Exeter?

RitaZ hugs dear Clari

VanceS: cya Claire, thanks for stopping in

DennisOl: Take care, Claire. Hope we can get together in Tempe or Phoenix.

ClaireB hugs dear rita

ThomasLev: cu Claire

VanceS: yeah Dennis, only for a day

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DennisOl sends hugs

DennisN: Incientally, Exeter Online is worth visiting, thugh the are very slow in getting stuff uploaded. I gather there are technical probles.

VanceS: I've been enjoying the fora

VanceS . o O ( forums )

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ThomasLev: got a url?

VanceS: http://exeteronline.britishcouncil.org

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ThomasLev: thanks

VanceS: wb cathy

CathyT: Sorry I got logged off...

ThomasLev: I actually go back & check out all this stuff

DennisN: I've stuck with the Young Learners' forum because I a its moderator. No-one has visited t since Exeter real finished.

DennisOl: Thanks for the URL, Vance. I was just about to post it.

ThomasLev: need some young learners?

EleonorL: I have never heard of Exeter online, but that is really cool

DennisN: The forum needs some teaches of young learners!

VanceS: the Learning Technologies forum has been hopping http://exeteronline.britishcouncil.org/mod/forum/view.php?f=14

ThomasLev: ok

DennisOl: Yes, there must be hundreds and hundreds of posts in the LT forum.

EleonorL: Are we doing this now??

VanceS: I think there are teachers of young learners here with us now

AmandaGT: yes :)

ThomasLev: I teach adults...but they're "young" at heart

DennisN: Exeter Online is going to run for a few months, perhaps 12. It is free and worth taking a look at. At the moment there are about 15 videoed sessions plus slides.

VanceS: Graham Stanley and Gavin D both have presentations there

DennisOl: I've seen a few of them and have also read a number of fora. Very informative.

DennisOl: Haven't seen Graham's / Gavin's presentations.

ericanm: they seem very interesting!

ThomasLev: I have to go soon...

DennisOl: Me, too.

DennisN: Hi, Dennis. You should - and there are others worth taking a look at.

ThomasLev: Dennis O- we had a bit of an earthquake here in so. Illinois

DennisOl: But it was great to make connections, Tom.

AmandaGT: thanks for all your useful website Tom

VanceS: btw if anyone wants to try Oovoo I'm sitting in it

VanceS: I'm vancestev

DennisOl: Yes, I'll definitely check them out, Denos.

RitaZ: me too, folks, need to leave...,Will join you later, Vance

DennisOl: Take care, Tom.

KaylaP: Yes, thank you so much

DennisOl: Muchos abrazos, Rita!

VanceS: ok, bye all who are filing toward the revolving door

DennisOl: And I need to leave, too.

RitaZ: mas grandes para ti, Dennis! :-)

DennisOl: Take care, everyone.

ericanm wave goodbye

DennisOl: ¡Mil gracias, Rita!

VanceS: I think I might have learned at least one thing already

DennisOl: Bye . . . . . . .

RitaZ hugs everybody and leaves

DennisN: I hate it, but I must leave, too. I got the time wrong and now I've got to make cucumber sandwiches for guests!

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VanceS: cucumber sandwiches, you'd never get that in a NY delicatessen

VanceS: but sounds healthy

ThomasLev: peanut butter & cucumber- yummy!

DennisN: Just before I go to the sandwiches can I check this time thing. 15:20 in Gerany - what time GMT at the moment?

VanceS: My first encounter with them was in "the importance of being Earnest"

DennisN: Gerany = Germany

VanceS: right now it's 13:23 GMT

VanceS: we meet at noon, should be 2 pm for you Denos

ericanm: it's 8:20 Houston,Texas time

DennisN: Thanks, Vance. Then Germany is GMT plus 2, which is not what the charts say. Or is there Summer Times added or something?

ericanm: AM!

VanceS: you might have sprung forward

VanceS: london has, confuses a lot of people

VanceS: london is GMT time only half the year

EleonorL: So Vance...what have you taught?

VanceS: I've been teaching for 30 years, you mean in all that time?

CristinaD: wow! that a long time, you must really like what you do

VanceS: I started in ESL

EleonorL: What grade?

EleonorL: Ohhhh

VanceS: At ELS, attached to the University of Houston, 1974

ThomasLev: have to go, everyone

VanceS: cya Thomas

JustinH: bye

ThomasLev: c ya

CathyT: bye

VanceS: great to catch up with you in NYC

CathyT: thank you!

DennisN: Germany is one hour behind Germany. I've a hunch these charts do not allow for that.

ThomasLev: yes, true!

CristinaD: bye thanks for everything

KaylaP: Bye, Thank you

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VanceS: use the timeanddate.com Denos

DennisN: Bye everyone. Enjoy ooVoo.

NatalieA: bye

VanceS: make sure you get the two dd\s in there

AmandaGT: bye :)

CathyT: bye

KaylaP: bye

EleonorL: So any suggestions or advice for ESL?

VanceS: Advice for ESL? How about Second Life?

EleonorL: sure

CristinaD: ok

ericanm: have a good day everyone, I really enjoyed the session

DennisN: I'm still here. I'm amazed there is not more EFL teaching in SL.

VanceS: bye eric, come back any time

ericanm: I have to cook breakfast for my little one!

VanceS: I think there is Denos, I've just done an article on it

DennisN: Is the artcle on line?

CathyT: bye Erica

VanceS: hang on

VanceS: http://sl2ndchance.pbwiki.com/

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VanceS: in the sidebar there's a reference to my study from a year back

VanceS: and this is kind of an update

DennisN: Can you remind me how to highlight and save an UL from Tappedin?

KaylaP: You put a lot of work into it!

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BeyzaY: Hi all,

VanceS: yes, best way is to pull down actions / send to pasteboard

VanceS: and highlight from there

KaylaP: They send you a transcript and you can copy it into Word

VanceS: Hi Beyza

BeyzaY smiles

DennisN: Great. Thanks for everything...Off to the sandwiches...

BeyzaY: bon appetit

EleonorL: Your website tells us a little more about you Vance...cool

AmandaGT: It is neat!

VanceS: don't microwave thse sandwiches too long Denos

VanceS: well what about you, what do you do?

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KaylaP laughs

VanceS: did anyone want to try Oovoo?

KaylaP: I am a student teacher about to graduate, I think many of us are in the same boat

AmandaGT: what is that?

EleonorL: I would agree with Kayla

AmandaGT: I agree :)

VanceS: ah, do you all go to college in Houston?

AmandaGT: yes

EleonorL: Yes sir

NatalieA: i am aslo a student teacher

CristinaD: yes to U of H

JustinH: yup

AntonnettP: yes

NatalieA: yes

VanceS: my alma mater

KaylaP: yes, the Univeristy of Houston

CristinaD: cool

KaylaP: That is what I read

CathyT: yes

JustinH: when did you graduate

VanceS: how did you happen on this session?

VanceS: 1971 from UH

CathyT: I'm at the University of Houston also

BeyzaY: good to see student teachers here

EleonorL: Last day to turn in assignments...LOL

KaylaP: We had an assignment that was due, the websites are very helpful!

BeyzaY smiles

VanceS: is it one of your assignments to visit tapped in?

AmandaGT: I agree Kayla! I am learning so much with what is being shared

AmandaGT: yes

CristinaD: yes it is

EleonorL: Yes sir...

JustinH: yes

KaylaP: Yes, we have to visit two of them

NatalieA: yes, we have to visit 2 chats

AntonnettP: yes

CathyT: There has been a lot of helpful and interesting information passed along, thank you!

EleonorL: So far...it has been very interesting. Never knew this exitsted

VanceS: how did you hit on this one?

EleonorL: I would agree Cathy

EleonorL: On the calendar

KaylaP: It sounded interesting

VanceS: do we fit our description? It was probably written years ago.

CristinaD: yeah thats how I saw it

JustinH: the assignment is due tonight and it sounded interesting

VanceS: like sinefeld, a show about nothing

EleonorL: LOL

VanceS: works, somehow

AmandaGT smiles

CristinaD: interesting information shared, though

VanceS: works better than if we tried to do something actually

KaylaP: I agree

EleonorL: What grade have you taught Vance?

AntonnettP: I agree

VanceS: we cal it having F.U.N.

VanceS: http://prosites-vstevens.homestead.com/files/efi/papers/tesol/colloquium2004/fun00.htm

KaylaP: how often do you all meet, I am guessing this is a group chat

BeyzaY: I wish I had that opportunity when I wasa student

BeyzaY: u guys are luckt

BeyzaY: lucky

VanceS: I have taught college and high school

VanceS: we meet every week at noon GMT

AmandaGT: there are so many new technology resources to use now ! :)

NatalieA: yes

VanceS: which opportunity, Beyza?

EleonorL: Favorites? College or prefer high school?

KaylaP: How long have you all been a part of this group?

EleonorL: I would agree Amanda

VanceS: we have met, same format as you just saw, each week for almost ten years now

AmandaGT: wow :)

CristinaD: WOW!! really long time

VanceS: at the same time each week, noon gmt

BeyzaY: opportunity to explore online tools

CristinaD: so you guys really know each other

KaylaP: oh,my goodness, I am sorry we all interupted!

AmandaGT: What a great way to share information, keep in touch, ect.

VanceS: well, we are a fluid group

EleonorL: I would agree

VanceS: and we welcome and appreciate newcomers

BeyzaY: yes

VanceS: so it was nice to see everyone

KaylaP: I dont think I knew about the internet ten years ago!

VanceS: we have a mailing list

EleonorL: I knew about it, but I hardly used it Kayla..lol

VanceS: you can join here

VanceS: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evonline2002_webheads

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VanceS: and the website is http://webheads.info

VanceS: he RObert

VanceS: hey

RobertSq: HI Vance.

RobertSq: A littl late. I m -7 GMT

BeyzaY: I need to go now everyone

BeyzaY: it was nice seein u online

CristinaD: bye

NatalieA: bye

AntonnettP: bye

VanceS: so soon beyza, thanks for stopping by

BeyzaY: have a great Sunday

AmandaGT: bye! :)

KaylaP: bye

EleonorL: Bye

VanceS: yu tu

JustinH: bye

CathyT: bye

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VanceS: Beyza is from Turkey

NatalieA: so Vance, what takes you to Abu Dhabi?

VanceS: I just met Robert in New York, TESOL conference

KaylaP: Vance are you a part of any other chats?

KaylaP: I am completely new to this site

VanceS: I monitor http://worldbridges.net

KaylaP: the site we discussed early

CristinaD: oh ok, that sounds like a big task

VanceS: more correctly http://edtechtalk.com

VanceS: yes, these are the two communities I'm most involved with

VanceS: oh, and also TALO

EleonorL: TALO?

VanceS: teaching and learning online, a Google group

EleonorL: cool

KaylaP: that is neat

VanceS: antpodal

VanceS: antipodal

VanceS: these three will get you started, and also http://downes.ca

KaylaP: what is antipodal, I am very behind

VanceS: australian, New Zealand

AmandaGT: Kayla.. I feel the same way :()

AmandaGT smiles

VanceS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipodes

KaylaP smiles back

VanceS: what about you Robert, any favorite lists or communities not mentinoed?

AmandaGT: ahhhh

AmandaGT smiles

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VanceS: oh, we're having another event at 16:00 GMT

VanceS: two hours from now

RobertSq: I'll answer that in jus a sec. i have to get my girls some breakfast.

KaylaP: I opened my bug mouth too fast! I thought it was an internet term I have never heard, funny!

VanceS: http://tinyurl.com/3myv8v

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CristinaD: tell me agin what event are you having?

VanceS: a discussion of writingmatrix

VanceS: http://writingmatrix.wikispaces.com

VanceS: more info at http://tinyurl.com/3myv8v

CristinaD: oh ok, I missed it when you said it the first time

KaylaP: Is this your occupation now?

EleonorL: Interesting...

VanceS: I do this for fun in my spare time

VanceS: I teach computing at Petroleum Institute in Abu Dhabi

CristinaD: very interesting

KaylaP: that is neat!

VanceS: I do this because I learn so much from everyone involved

NatalieA: sounds realy interesting

AmandaGT: I can imagine. I have learned so much in this 1 chat :)

RobertSq: I have been looking for other groups, and hoped to find more by following IATEFL online, but so far evoonlne 2002 is my main group

KaylaP: I agree! There is so much information it is unbelievable

CathyT: Yes, everyone has a lot of interesting things to contribute!

VanceS: maybe this was a good session because y'all asked so many great questions

VanceS: what is your work Robert? I don't know if I ever found out ...

VanceS . o O ( maybe forgot .. ;-) )

JustinH: You also gave us a lot of ineresting sites. This was very helpful.

CristinaD: Thanks Vance, you have been very helpful. I have to go now.

EleonorL: I would agree Justin. I looked at every one of them

EleonorL: I have to go as well. Nice chatting with ya! Best of Luck!

CristinaD: Bye everyone!

CathyT: Well, it is about that time and I must go. Thank you Vance and everyone for passing on so many great online resources to us. I appreciate it and look foreward to using them. Have a great Sunday.

VanceS: this is our normal time to stop

VanceS: or the time we say we do

AmandaGT: Same to you :)

VanceS: if you want more come back to that url in two hourss

NatalieA: Thanks everyone, it has been great.

VanceS: and for more besides just join our communities

AntonnettP: Thank you for so much useful information, Happy Sunda everyone!

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RobertSq: I work at The University of Montana. I teach ESL, and run short-term programs

VanceS: and we're here next week same time same channel

AmandaGT: sounds great.. Thanks again

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VanceS: in missoula?

RobertSq: Sorry, for missing out on the good stuff. I ned a 5 am wake-up call next time.

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RobertSq: Yes missoula

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VanceS: I visited there once, walked up to some lakes

RobertSq: Flathead lake perhaps.

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JustinH: Thanks again for all the information Vance and to everyone else who gave it. I have to go now. Bye everyone!

VanceS: maybe, also rafted a river there

VanceS: really nice place

VanceS: ok bye all

RobertSq: It snowed again this morning

VanceS: see you again

VanceS: y'all come back now you hear?

VanceS: that's what we used to say in Houston when I was a kid

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VanceS: well, looks like we cleared the house

RobertSq: Vance I amy go and pla around with Oovoo...

VanceS: I'm online now

VanceS: if you want to try

VanceS: vancestev

RobertSq: Does that work for you?

VanceS: ??

VanceS: do you have an oovoo account?

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RobertSq: I am dowloading teh software

VanceS: hi Guiyan

VanceS: we're just wrapping up webheads, can we help?

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VanceS: another one bites the dust

RobertSq: I think I have the idea. Hopefully, I'll give you a call in a min.

VanceS: ok, I just had to upload new software for it as well

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VanceS: Hi folks, Robert and I are starting up an Oovoo call

VanceS: other than that we're just hanging out here

VanceS: need anything?

RobertSq: Hi Vance. I'm calling

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VanceS: ok, Robert, I've got something up

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